It could be a problem if you were bitten or the dog was bitten…..and either of you needed treatment. That’s news and quite surprising to me! Some bites barely break the skin; others are deadly serious. How Often Should You Get a Tetanus Shot and Why’s It Important? Rabies Serology. I am mad that she waited this long to tell me but I understand she’s probably terrified but at the same time this is not ok with me. This is amazing, coming from the AVMA! Therefore, the most likely scenario of your dog getting rabies is through contact with another domesticated or wild infected animal. I’ve avoided the”suit’s” all this time and they finally got me today so I had to fill out the dog bite report with the health unit. Please can you advise me on what to do? We explain this fear of dogs and how you can treat the condition. Second, if you can put your foot down to resist the shots (not in the belly, not painful any longer, but vaccines are best avoided if you value your long term health), I’d refuse them. I find this ridiculously over priced possibly to discourage you from going a different route. The rabies vaccine can protect you from being infected with the virus. It’ll be good to know you have the right to refuse euthanasia and choose 10 day quarantine. Rabies is only transmitted by animal bites: FALSE. Rabies is a very serious virus. This can occur even if the wound appears to be small, like from puncture marks. In my opinion Nick was killed for doing his job, and the “authorities” should be deprived of theirs. Certain infections from dog bites can be very serious and lead to complications. It’s uncommon in the United States where vaccines are routinely provided to children. So, although it was dinner time we walked 4 houses down and knocked on the door. The Vet that did the titers mentioned preparing Sadie prior to the Rabies Vaccination with Benedryl, and treating her after with a Nosode. All rights reserved. I flew from canada to usa annually for 7 years with my maltese and the rabies certificate was checked EVERY time coming and going. Oh my God. That was the message from two different vets in town, and it was stated strongly and authoritatively. Rabies is a serious viral condition that affects the central nervous system. She’s mostly an inside dog but we’ve been attacked several times on our walks by loose dogs and I want to protect her from euthanasia if she bites anyone or anything during a skirmish. I gave him the Thuga 200 homeopathic you recommended for vaccine induced distemper. It will be a milestone for sure when the results of The Rabies Challenge Fund change the minds and then the laws to benefit our pets. I’m sure international travel is more restrictive. The nurse threatened to sue me, even though she had no serious injury and hadn’t required stitches. Keep an eye on the wound for signs of infection. Why were forced to Euthanize your dog? My concern is if we have to travel back to uk or go to the vet for anything we could get fined or forced into it or worse. http://www.cdc.gov/rabies/specific_groups/veterinarians/potential_exposure.html It also goes on to say advanced age is not grounds for waiver to be given…, My 5 yr old and I came home and my husband told us that our neighbor Tammy and her son Sam had just dropped by to see us. But knowing it and being able to produce a document from CDC are two different things. He always had some behavioral issues which were documented by us, but that wasn’t good enough. My 5 yr old was excited to have a visitor but sad that she had missed them. I was forced into giving my dig a rabies shot in April… It is now October and see has to get a leg amputation due to a severe reaction to the rabies shot!!!! So we were able to do a 10 day “quarantine” at home. I have been bitten several times, but have only needed to go to the doctor once….and I lied about how I got injured…..I don’t need the police coming to my home and have what happened to you happen to me. Ughhhh. I have a beagle mix, Barney, who on the way home from his 3rd rabies shot had a seizure in the car. A bite from a large dog may result in broken, splintered, or fractured bones, especially in the legs, feet, or hands. Nick was up to date!! They were in the wrong, clearly, but this is what we have to deal with when bureaucrats are allowed to think they have authority over us. Since then my dog made a full recovery that was a long road. Specifically the wording that the vaccine is NOT contraindincated in most immunocomprimised animals. Until a study is proven and verified it is worthless and simply not true. I know you are advising from the US but I don’t know who to turn to here for help. So there’s really nothing I can do to prepare her before and treat after a vaccination to protect her? A stray dog rests in a pedestrian walkway at the Pathankot train station in Punjab, India. It sounds like a sad “perfect storm” that took his life. Read more about types of bites, symptoms, and treatments. Our website services, content, and products are for informational purposes only. By day 4 of this nightmare, I now understand why people sue over a simple “dog bite.” “Protective” levels of titer is a construct, and an arbitrary one. If it is, do I need to give him a different homeopathic? Follow up with an application of antibacterial lotion and cover with a sterile bandage. As I’m in Canada, I’d like to add this link for anyone from Ontario, Canada. Rabies is caused by a virus that affects the central nervous system. Let us know in the comments if you’ve ever been involved in a bite situation and what you learned from it. You can also develop tetanus (lockjaw) from a dog bite. None. When they occur, about 70 percent of deaths related to dog bites happen to children younger than 10 years old. 5. full articles with highlighted portions She’s 8 lbs and I’m worried since I now have a brain-damaged Barney on seizure meds due to his last/3rd Rabies Vaccination. Hi Cathy, This cat needs to be under the care of a homeopath, regardless of where the illness has come from. As long as its not a severe bite, then treat as you would any other kind of wound. Any information you have is GREATLY appreciated….Thank you . With rare exception (very, very rare), I recommend every dog get a rabies vaccination sometime after 4 months of age. We are stronger as a pack than as a lone wolves. What is the rabies vaccine? Unconventional Wisdom For Naturally Healthy Animals, Last updated on May 2, 2019 By Will Falconer, DVM 99 Comments. It also makes sense to “let sleeping dogs lie,” and to never disturb a dog that’s eating or caring for puppies. According to the Compendium: Rabies has one of the highest case-fatality ratios of any infectious disease. Keeping a cool head and confidently providing documents like this will get you far. I told her that I had no choice but to get medical care because it was now infected and I needed her shot records showing that he was “up-to-date” on his rabies shot (I knew the doctor would require because they would be reporting it to the Health Department). I keep hard copies of the following in my car and in an online folder that can be easily viewed and emailed from my phone. Dogs, bats, skunks, coyotes, raccoons, and foxes are examples of animals that can carry rabies. Will they report the non vaccinated rabies dog to the country? Google “blue buffalo lawsuit” AND READ! I have also contacted you regarding the Rabies Tautode. You were lucky, over the years I have gone to urgent care on 2 occasions because of a dog bite, both times the wound was showing signs of infection and I knew I needed antibiotics. If you were bitten by a cat, dog, or ferret that appeared healthy at the time you were bitten, it can be confined by its owner for 10 days and observed. The number of deaths due to dog bites in the United States annually is very low. I have a problem on my hands, my 1 yr and 5 month old dog and I were playing with a toy and he accidentally bit my hand when he bit onto the toy. Great info! Hey Sally, And finally, it’s important for everyone reading this to know that the dog being “out of date” on rabies vaccines has nothing to do with the determination of whether or not a bitten person gets recommended to get PEP (post exposure prophylaxis). The airline employees only briefly checked that we had a rabies certificate but never said anything about the date. I was at work when it happened so I was not there to protect Nick from the gestapo Animal Control people who seized him and euthanized him almost immediately. Sure, Ellen. My first response would be to call 911, both times that I saw a rabid animal, children were nearby. Key point: immunity to virus vaccines “lasts for years if not the life of the animal.” — https://vitalanimal.com/vacc-efficacy/, @Shama, proceed with caution. You also should assess the wound to determine the severity. There doesn’t need to be a family history to have chronic disease outcomes after a vaccination. Since we had to go back to the same vet, that’s what we did. Will they try to arrest you for being wise about this? I also have coyotes in my area and they don’t look very healthy. You’ll need to be smarter (and quicker!) My special boy (4yrs GSD) was diagnosed with idiopathic epilepsy ten months ago and has experienced twelve GM’s to date, the last 48 hours ago. It’s a remedy made from the vaccine itself, and is given before an after vaccination. Over 6,000 known rabies cases involving wildlife occur in the U.S. each year; of these, a number involve dogs or cats being exposed. Her fee is $75. This was all after discussions with the doctor of how PEP treatment is not without risk (treatment for my daughter that includes human globulin blood products and would be like giving her 9 blood transfusions giving her the risk of Hep C, HIV and whatever else we don’t even know about that one can get from someone else’s blood)….then he told me that even though I am the parent the decision for her to get treatment is not mine but the Health Department’s. URL of AVMA Rabies Waiver policy: https://www.avma.org/KB/Policies/Pages/Annual-Rabies-Vaccination-Waiver.aspx I pick her up from school. Bites on the hands or feet carry a higher risk of infection. International travel: all bets are off. 1) Fly under the radar, worry about what might happen… In rare cases, the dog may get this disease after scratching when the saliva of the rabid animal comes in contact with the open wound. Best to get your ducks in a row PRIOR to any issues. Don’t know what to do. Hi Tracy, Thanks for a great article! By comparison, there are 59,000 deaths from rabies each year around the world, and 98 percent are from dog bites. Then in 2013, he bit my husband again in the same place – his nose – and he required stitches again. The question I had for you is about your suggestions for homeopathics for vaccine induced distemper. Was I a complete fool for following those voices that said she’d be immune for life from her early rabies shot? The rabies vaccine is to … Infections can spread quickly throughout the body. Who was that again? Both times the injury was caused by my own small breed dog who was up to date on vaccinations. Here’s a quote, taken right from this document, under the pertinent section you can find yourself, titled Part I, B, 6: Management of Animals that Bite Humans. There’s nothing we can do but try to educate, even the vets. All dogs and cats that have bitten a person need to be quarantined for 10 days and checked by a vet for signs of rabies. I’ve had the opposite experience in my life: my night for emergencies, I get home and intend to meditate for an hour, undisturbed. It did not start out this way. I am an animal lover, I have 2 dogs, a lizard, a hamster, fish and a crab but telling people to skip the shots after the first one is just ridiculous and irresponsible. Learn about symptoms in cats and humans, and get facts on…. Your puppy most likely doesn't have it because it would have to have been bitten by a rabid animal first. Okay, so what are our choices? Have the information printed out so you have your ammunition. He’s now saying that I have to go get all of these anti-rabies shots and I’m worried that will be terrible for my baby, curious of the odds that my dog has rabies with it being 1 mo. Hello Will, LOVE YOUR SITE!! Thanks so much for sharing this painful story with us. That’s not likely if the animal was a pet dog or cat in the United States, thanks to laws requiring rabies vaccinations for those companion animals (and … That is what I was thinking. What do I do? These germs can cause bacterial infections if the dog bite breaks the skin. This time we are in a different county. In some instances, you’ll be able to administer first aid to yourself. I know small dogs are at higher risk for reaction to vaccination. After all her dog is up to date and it is a one tooth puncture wound. I do know I need to find a new vet because I don’t trust this one. In the United States, rabies is mostly found in wild animals like … 1. You’re not very informed of the facts. The first thing you should do following a dog bite is to put distance between yourself and the dog. My traditional vet said he would do a titer (rabies) and if the level was high enough, then maybe he would sign the waiver for my dog that has a medical condition. Or it gets put to sleep. We, too, live in Ontario and have travelled many times to the U.S. Our experience over the past eight years has been that the request for rabies docs is completely random; we’ve crossed often without being asked for any proof. Yet another example of ignorant people making life and death decisions. I got bit 2 weeks ago by a friends dog and finally found out today,the vaccines are not up to date so yes I will now have to have painful rabies shots in my stomach over the next two weeks. Good stuff, everybody. Of course if you live in the city you don’t have too worry about these things. If you have vaccinated, do you not believe immunity is there against what you vaccinated against? Intoxication (mercury) is not the only concern, see this post to learn why. If symptoms of rabies do develop, your dog will usually have to be put down, as is the law in most states. You want the RFFIT Rabies Vaccine Response Titer Test – Not for Pet Travel. Though he won’t guarentee every officer’s response. Dogs with rabies are more likely to bite when unprovoked. Any stray or unwanted dog, cat, or ferret that bites a person may be euthanized immediately by an animal health professional and the head should be submitted for rabies testing. Then they would recommend that you the human get the rabies vaccine treatment, they may not accept titers or outdated rabies vaccines for the dog. I think I’m going to need to Vaccinate her for Rabies, as much as I hate to do it. Sam saw me repeatedly as a pup for a chronic loose stool and a flaky appetite. I give it before and after the shot, so far so good. If you are unsure about what your clinic says, get a second opinion! You can’t be too careful. Had the dog been up to date not according to a titer (which she did not have) but according to a vet we would have gone to the doctor gotten the antibiotics for the bite (topical and oral) and gotten back on with life. Together, we can change the world, one Vital Animal at a time! Ironically, the Canadian Food Inspection Agency references the US compendium but leaves it at that. I was told by my vet that there are no levels in titer testing, it is either positive or negative. © 2005-2021 Healthline Media a Red Ventures Company. Here’s what I’d do to keep your chances high of not losing your best friend in a dog bite scenario: That sage advice, given daily by sergeant Phil Esterhaus of Hill St. Blues, is useful when you’re daring to question authority for the good health of your animal. He was protecting his yard, which was way down a marked, “dead end” road, and a stranger was trespassing despite the private property warning. Animal control was very helpful in our initial phone discussion — and busy — as they just looked in the window on Day 1 and then again on Day 10 as this wasn’t a high-risk situation. So we took him to the only vet open at that time of night (they called 4pm, so by the time we argued and they threatened us, only one was still open). Is it possible that the distemper is not vaccine induced, but real? It has thoughtful articles and Tasty Tips that only go out to our members. The closest thing we have to measuring this at present is the ongoing Rabies Challenge Fund, which seeks to prove at least 5–7 years duration of immunity from a rabies vaccination. His fingers bleeding, he’s shrieking in pain and fear in his mom’s arms. Immunologists, is that who he said? I know I know, giving her the rabies vaccination is a great risk. Hi all, My 11 yr old westie had a bad allergic/digestive reaction to hi 6 mo. That can be scary enough even when vaccines etc are up to date. Rabies virus antibody titers are indicative of a response to vaccine or infection. Great tactic, Tricia, thanks. Let’s face it, there’s a whole lot of advice, admonishments, and recommendations coming at you in the name of “prevention” that can cause ill health. You can take the presence of any titer to mean that it’s highly likely there’s a long term immunity that will be “awakened” suddenly upon exposure to the disease agent. Was that for rabies, too, or just the other vaccinations? He had never eaten bait drops. I also now have a non-vaccinated Scotty puppy who was with her mother until 12 weeks old. I also have an 8lb toy rat terrier, Sadie, who I adopted at age 2, she’s now 6. Love this article. No calls. Emergency physician Dr. Rabies is a lethal condition that is caused by a virus. An additional injection of rabies immune globulin is also required as part of the treatment. PEP is required under following conditions: ● If the bite has broken the skin and the wound is bleeding. I don’t have any proof of Rabies for her but I know she was vaccinated at least once because I called her breeder (I did get that record). When did you come through the US border with only a titer? He is on three AED’s and is considered a “serious epileptic” by his neurologist. I do pick her up often if there’s any question. I know there’s a chance she may still have immunity but I don’t have any protection for her if she were to bite someone. No fine, no forcing (though they may try). Sorry to be blunt but a pet is a financial commitment, not a right. The emergency room or urgent care center personnel may ask you how long it has been since your last tetanus shot. It bled profusely and someone warned me to get a tetanus shot, but I didn’t go to a Dr or get a tetanus shot and I was fine. I also got bit breaking up a dog fight. We take her into the house and clean and bandage the “wound.” I have had a hard time calling it a “bite” seeing as it is a one tooth puncture wound. I offer it free. Luckily I was able to pick up my dogs and run, both times the rabid animal was coming after us in broad daylight. According to the county we are now in, a dog should never bite (even if teased by a stupid person). I live in spain with my lovely gsd cross rescue dog and am totally anti the annual rabies shot they state is a legal requirement. The type of first aid you administer will be determined by the severity of the bite. Compendium of Animal Rabies Prevention and Control, http://www.ksvdl.org/rabies-laboratory/rffit-tests/, http://www.health.gov.on.ca/en/pro/programs/publichealth/oph_standards/docs/rabies_prevention.pdf, https://www.avma.org/KB/Policies/Pages/Annual-Rabies-Vaccination-Waiver.aspx, http://www.cdc.gov/rabies/specific_groups/veterinarians/potential_exposure.html, https://my.vitalanimal.com/p/vital-animal-pack. I’m not clear on the actual reason if he was up to date on shots? Years of that experience. All dogs bite, this has been my experience. That’s exactly what happened to my patient Buddy, a couple years back. “Damned if you do, damned if you don’t”. And smarter than animal control, who’s likely to be more determined to follow the rules without understanding the big picture. If you’ve been bitten by a dog and notice signs of infection, see a doctor. After my dad died his Brittany Spaniel, “Nick” underwent a personality change. If your skin wasn’t broken, wash the area with warm water and soap. The cold realization slaps you wide awake to a much scarier scenario: animal control will be involved as well as this boy’s doctor. Some clinics offer a 3 year rabies vaccine but THAT DOES NOT APPLY TO DISTEMPER, BORDETELLA OR OTHERS! Seek immediate medical attention if you’ve been bitten by a dog and you aren’t sure of their vaccination history or know that they’re not up-to-date on their rabies vaccinations. For this reason, make sure to keep up with your dog’s rabies inoculations. Keep in mind that if the results come back low you will be pressured to comply with vaccines. Dr. Falconer, I don’t want what happened to Barney to happen to her. Any thoughts would be most welcome as I really feel I’m stuck between a rock and a hard place. Print and/or save to your Evernote account. plz help me lol do chihuahuas usauly bite cause my dog doesn’t have her rabies shot she hates water and is scared by loud noises and moving things she knows sit kinda plz help me idw my dogs head to be cut off, My pet had a wound room Em to doc and they asked for rabies certificate but it’s expired so they said to lock pet in a bedroom room for 6 months and only 1 person can go in and feed and water it. Rabies is transmitted to the dog almost exclusively by the bite of another animal and virus-containing saliva (5). It can infect all warm-blooded mammals, including humans. The odds of lifetime immunity are high if you wait till that age. I lived in Europe until recently and travelled internationally with my westie all the time with only a rabies titer paper. The (totally unprovoked, yes we were on HIS property but we were simply going to them after they had come to us when we were not home…that is as close to an invitation as you can get) lunges out in a split second and bites my child. Her previous owner died before I could get them. The Vaccine ruined his Heath for life. Some types of katydids may nip your hand if you pick them up. He has trust issues and the first time he bit me was early in our relationship (7-8 years ago.) I have proof of past vaccinations for him and will also titer and arm myself with the ammo mentioned above. I went through the Contact page, and can resend it to your e-mail if you prefer. Regardless of rabies vaccination status, a healthy dog, cat, or ferret that potentially exposes a person through a bite should be confined and observed daily for 10 days from the time of the exposure.”. I asked her about the dogs vaccinations and she said he was “up to date.” Because she said the dog was up to date I did not take my child to the ER that night. Her dog obviously doesn’t have rabies and has been in quarantine for 2 weeks but this is the 3rd person she’s bit. Each year about 4 million Americans are bitten by dogs. I’ve been bitten several times by these dogs trying to get them off my dogs. Wasn’t Dogs Naturally Magazine saying “Once and done” is the healthiest way to go for vaccinations? For repeat dog bite, only two doses of anti rabies Vaccine are to be given on day 0 and 3, whatever is the interval from primary vaccination. You may need oral or intravenous antibiotics. To top it off,1 was pregnant and due the next day. Dog bites can introduce dangerous bacteria into the body. 2. Don’t be surprised if you’re the only one in the room who knows this stuff! 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